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Bayonne Board of Education Salary Spreadsheet (DizzyKlizzie's Spreadsheet!)

Posted 03-23-2008 at 10:30 AM by HappyPolski
The attached spreadsheet has three different TABS:
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[*]SALARY - contains the information that was found at the BOE web site. Columns were the information was the same or sections that contained no data were deleted.
[*]DATA - has 2 PIVOT tables. The first one in broken down by the different employee TITLES. Listed next to each TITLE is:
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[*]# of Employees
[*]TOTAL salary of all employees under that TITLE.
[*]MAXIMUM SALARY
[*]MINIMUM SALARY
[*]AVERGE SALARY
[*]The GRAND TOTAL indicates the aforementioned values for all TITLES.[/list][/list]The second table lists employees by LAST NAME and indicates how many employees have the same LAST NAME. Since there is no indicator to familial relationship this is NOT meant to indicate how many family members are employed. By clicking a row in the right-most column of either table the various employees who comprise that data will appear in a new TAB.
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[*]DAYS - simply a breakdown of the year to determine how workdays the average worker puts in, sans vacation days.[/list]Be advised that the data was culled from the BOE web site. It consists of only those employees whose base salary is greater than $75K. If the remaining individuals can be obtained I will incorporate them into an updated report.

BOE Salaries

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lulu

Thanks Stan,

As I said before, how can a contract state 235 annual work days and 25 vacation days, when the Sup't and Asst. supts. get all the holidays. i,e, thanksgiving, christmas, easter, spring break. etc. Those figures are erroneous.

The teachers # of days is one off, I think they work 183 not 182 but at least holidays are not included in the total.

If one goes straight across the Sup't gets around $30,000 in perks and bennies.

Doll, Eakin and Pierson are the money guys and their salaries total $386,614

Pacyna, caiola, and kubert handle maintenance total $250,222

We pay lenny Granowicz $97,750 to remediate students at marist Who remediates at Holy family? anyone know?

Evelyn taraszkiewicz runs two depts social studies and english and gets $125,387 while Joey's cousin annmaire palmieri monahan the math director earns $121,227

Could be an error but Craig and O'Connor are listed as having a 1 year contract. A raise in June?


The heading base annual salary might be misleading. The administrators contract years ago, began with a base but then their degrees and longevity were added in making the gross a lot higher. I always thought that was weird as to be a Principal, VP, director, etc. you needed a master's degree.

we have 44 administrators. Too many chiefs, for around 800 indians
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Posted 03-23-2008 at 11:37 AM by lulu lulu is offline
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HappyPolski

LuLu, the spreadsheet had categories for Longevity but no dollar amounts were shown.

Then I thought about the term BASE SALARY. Does that mean paid OT? If so, at those salary ranges it's outrageous! In the private sector, and I can only speak in terms of non-union, once you've reached a certain level you become SALARIED, read no OT. Usually that's around the $50K mark, give or take maybe $10K.
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Posted 03-23-2008 at 12:18 PM by HappyPolski HappyPolski is offline
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HappyPolski

Hmm, Mrs. 'T'. She was my Asst Webelos Leader for the last year, or was it two, that I spent with Pack 19. She got the kids involved! I enjoyed working with her.
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Posted 03-23-2008 at 12:40 PM by HappyPolski HappyPolski is offline
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lulu

For the teachers, longevity and extra degress are included in their base. What you see is what they get. The administration, unless changed, never included the degrees or longevity in the base. If publicized, the lower figure looks much better than the actual stipend.


ET is a nice person, but she never should have agreed to take over two departments for a single salary. She's there 40 years and Pierson, who's there a total of about 7 makes almost as much as she.

I feel sorry for Tim Mercier. He's a good VP and makes $112,705 and he has over 25 years in the district. Eric Ryan has maybe 7 years and makes $101,845 as a VP. Kathy Bingham is listed as a teacher earning $98,205 but she's a VP and has been at BHS for about 5 years. Politics does make a big difference - Tim has none.
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Posted 03-23-2008 at 05:17 PM by lulu lulu is offline
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lulu

Stan

With regards to OT. Only the guidance dept. has it stipulated in the contract that if they worK OT, they get 1/200 of their salary for the day.around $450 for each extra work day. The guidance people put in a few days before school opens, registering new students. Any teacher who works OT, gets about $25 per hour.

A 12 month VP earns around $122,000 vs a 10 month VP at $112,000. If the 10 month employee works 20 days OT, it comes to $11,200 for the OT. A total of $123,200. In the long run, this is cheaper as the OT does not get figured into the pension formula, and the odds of working the entire 20 days are slim. More than half of the administrative staff work 12 months. Years ago, only 2 were on the list. The Principal of BHS and the director of guidance.
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 06:50 AM by lulu lulu is offline
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Jude Americk

What is the purpose of this spreadsheet? Am I missing something? Is it to show the duplicate last names, which I am not exactly sure what that accomplishes. Also, without the complete salary information, the data is worthless. I can see that the Administration staff gets paid 4.6M but is that normal for a school district the size of Bayonne? Is there a comparison to put Bayonne up against?

Jude
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 08:53 AM by Jude Americk Jude Americk is offline
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lulu

If you go to the board of Ed web page and then the 2008-09 budget, you can generate the original data. It gives the current salaries of the admin and the teachers on max. It seems the remainder of the teaching staff has not been recorded. The teachers salaries are 100% accurate. The admin is questionable.

re: duplication not so just the same last names
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 10:36 AM by lulu lulu is offline
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WolfmanofWarezNewMexico

I just threw up.
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 11:13 AM by WolfmanofWarezNewMexico WolfmanofWarezNewMexico is offline
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lulu

Stan was kind enough to regenerate the data at this site. The original material came directly from the BBOE
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 01:02 PM by lulu lulu is offline
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Jude Americk

Again, what are we to do with this information? In order to understand if the admin salaries are too high (which I am assuming is the purpose of the spreadsheet), what equates as too high? Has anyone done a comparison to other districts with similar numbers as Bayonne.
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 02:27 PM by Jude Americk Jude Americk is offline
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LDePinto

I agree this information is topical and useless.

Its difficult to do a comparison because administative perks are not publicized, only base salaries. So one doesn't see the devil in the details as was pointed out in the "Taxpayer Beware" report that the state investigative commission noted.
The perks include car allowance, insurance paid, taxes on bennies paid, cashed in sick and unused vacation time, stipends and other privately negotiated administrative salary packages.

I found it odd that the Administration felt compelled to include the teachers at $75 and over and not ALL teachers...why not? Though I was aware of this spreadsheet, I chose not to comment on it because it looked like another Petulent Patsy Ploy; If she has to show hers, she's taking as many as she can with her.

Also, I'd love to see who's salary packages are union and who's aren't.

What was publisized on the Bayonne BOE site is another CLEAR example of carefully picked over stats. Rather hypocritical.
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 04:10 PM by LDePinto LDePinto is offline
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LDePinto

One way the admin builds in additional salary is through the unfettered cash in of unused sick and vacation time.
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 04:12 PM by LDePinto LDePinto is offline
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Jude Americk

Laura,

I find it useless beacause to understand the numbers, I need something to compare it too. I take that one of the original intents of this report was to show the multiple last names. If it wasn't, why was a separate pivot created to show this?

Information like this tends to worry me becuase some use it as ammunition for other purposes than the "appeared intent". For instance, a homeowner may see a tenant on this list and decide to raise their rent because they never realized they made "that much money". Yes, it is public but doesn't mean it needs to be posted in the way it was. Dollars, salaries, perks, etc. would have been enough, the names could have been left off.

Jude
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 04:23 PM by Jude Americk Jude Americk is offline
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LDePinto

Jude,
If you go out on http://www.nj.com/news/bythenumbers/ and look up wage and occupation data, you'll see that NJ ranks 2nd highest in the country for Education administrators, elementary and secondary school at an average salary of $97,800.

In Bayonne the superintendent is pulling down $224,000 salary and perks, and all the administrators in our district salaries are above $97,800, I'd say we have financial room for improvement in the school administration......
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 04:24 PM by LDePinto LDePinto is offline
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LDePinto

I have another spreadsheet I downloaded from NJ by the numbers. Yes, I took the time to actually download 32 pages individually into excel. Can we merge both spreadsheets?
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 05:10 PM by LDePinto LDePinto is offline
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HappyPolski

Jude, the first pivot table shows the various titles and how many positions exist for each one. I note that there are 40 administrators. What do they do? Do we really need that many for our fairly small school system?

Concerning the other table, I focused on people's comments about the extent of familal relationships that exist in the school system. Granted this partial list doesn't amount to much. From what I culled out of it there are 359 distinct last names out of the total 394 employees. Many of the 35 have two individuals.

If I'm able to get a complete list I'd like to run this exercise again, if only for my own edification..
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Posted 03-24-2008 at 09:24 PM by HappyPolski HappyPolski is offline
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lulu

Laura.

If you go to the BOE web page, you can see the perks for central office and the salaries are those of 2007-08. Reading across the page to see the individual items, i.e. car stipend $600 monthly, insurance premiums, etc. The entire package is listed. Patsy gets $235,000+ including perks.

The administrators salaries could be inaccurate. As stated before, their degrees and longevity were never included in the base, but that might have changed.

Non-bargaining Unit employees&gt; $75,000 heading is misleading. There are employees whose salaries are determined by the BOE, i.e. Patsy's secretaries. They should be listed under this heading, not the administrators who do belong to a union. I think someone goofed.

NJ by the numbers has more data, such as years in the district, degree info,etc. but the salaries are not current, they are from two years ago. The State averages are also outdated and need to be refigured. That info is useless.

The blank pages lead me to believe the list was never completed. The teachers at max are furious that only their salaries are included and not the entire staff. Someone looking at this data may conclude that every teacher in the district makes close to $100,000.
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Posted 03-25-2008 at 06:11 AM by lulu lulu is offline
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HappyPolski

If you open this spreadsheet using EXCEL you can sort various columns. Open this spredsheet, copy the address, open an EXCEL session and then paste the address into EXCEL.

Just a thought!
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Posted 03-27-2008 at 11:34 AM by HappyPolski HappyPolski is offline
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lulu

helloooo, are you kidding? I have enough trouble turning on the computer.
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Posted 03-27-2008 at 01:32 PM by lulu lulu is offline
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HappyPolski

LOL!!!
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Posted 03-28-2008 at 10:25 AM by HappyPolski HappyPolski is offline
 

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